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How strong are the Base Saiyans?
Topic Started: May 17 2014, 06:05 PM (3,451 Views)
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I think the base saiyans are weaker than Chiaotzu.
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Base Saiyans > SSJ Vegito because I feel like it!

I have them stronger than Kaioshin and Piccolo
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May 17 2014, 06:09 PM
I think the base saiyans are weaker than Chiaotzu.
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SSJ2 convinced me of Piccolo > Base Saiyans but obviously there's way too many mental loopholes (revisionism) to jump over for in the manga for the sake of a arguably canon movie which doesn't even outright say Freeza > Base Saiyans.

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Stronger than Piccolo or Kaioshin, roughly in the gap between Semi-Perfect Cell and Android 16
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However strong they need to be, Base Saiyans aren't really relevant after the Freeza arc.
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I consider the adult base Saiyans in the Boo arc hanging around between 50% and 100% Freeza in power (Goten and Trunks would be somewhat less). I've always thought so, but Battle of Gods has has just solidified it for me all the more. To nip the common points of contention in the bud...

- Vegeta's claim of superiority is only in regards to his fellow Super Saiyans, given the context.

- No.18 is restricting her power so as not to kill the mysterious Mighty Mask, but clearly in control of the fight anyway. Even after she figures out that it's the kids — by seeing them go Super Saiyan no less — it's not until they fire their ki blast and show off their power a bit that she feels they're any threat to her. If they were already on-par with her full power in their normal states, you'd think she'd freak out as soon as they transformed.

- Bobbidi and Dabra are able to detect, through some unknown method other than ki sensing (since everyone was suppressed), the Saiyans' latent Super Saiyan (and beyond) power. THIS is what they're correct in assuming will being enough to revive Majin Boo. They don't fully understand what that power is, though, and constantly underestimate the Saiyans' chances against their own minions.

- Kaioshin is stronger than even Piccolo, as said, and not weaker than the base Saiyans, nor any of Bobbidi's minions (sans Dabra) for that matter. He's merely overly cautious of them and their unknown strength, while the Saiyans prefer to just jump in and test their foes the old fashioned way. Kaioshin doesn't actually flat-out admit inferiority to them until after Goku's SSJ2 burst.
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In my opinion:

Freeza <<< Kaioshin << Base Saiyans <<<<<<< Piccolo
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lazerbem
May 17 2014, 06:27 PM
Stronger than Piccolo or Kaioshin, roughly in the gap between Semi-Perfect Cell and Android 16
You have Piccolo (post-RoSaT) weaker than Semi-Cell?
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May 17 2014, 10:54 PM
lazerbem
May 17 2014, 06:27 PM
Stronger than Piccolo or Kaioshin, roughly in the gap between Semi-Perfect Cell and Android 16
You have Piccolo (post-RoSaT) weaker than Semi-Cell?
I have that same Piccolo weaker than Semi-Cell as well.

Even Buu Saga Piccolo because I don't think he gained that much over the 7 years like the Humans.
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May 17 2014, 11:07 PM
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May 17 2014, 10:54 PM
lazerbem
May 17 2014, 06:27 PM
Stronger than Piccolo or Kaioshin, roughly in the gap between Semi-Perfect Cell and Android 16
You have Piccolo (post-RoSaT) weaker than Semi-Cell?
I have that same Piccolo weaker than Semi-Cell as well.

Even Buu Saga Piccolo because I don't think he gained that much over the 7 years like the Humans.
That'd mean Piccolo hardly made any gains in the RoSaT. Vegeta went from a good bit below #18 to a good bit above Semi-Cell.

Piccolo was already equal to #17, so I find it hard to believe he'd be any less than Cell, or even ASSJ Vegeta (post-1st RoSaT)
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I have him slightly stronger than Imperfect Cell (Post-Absorbtions) which is a pretty big increase IMO.
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The super saiyan multiplier dropped a lot. Somewhere between 3-5x base power in the buu saga. So base saiyans during buu saga should be at the very least almost as strong as frieza shouldn't they? Otherwise it wouldn't make sense since they got so much stronger since then
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May 18 2014, 01:29 AM
The super saiyan multiplier dropped a lot. Somewhere between 3-5x base power in the buu saga. So base saiyans during buu saga should be at the very least almost as strong as frieza shouldn't they? Otherwise it wouldn't make sense since they got so much stronger since then
It's debatable.

Some people believe the multiplier changes while others don't. I personally have a 5X SSJ multiplier for after the Saiyans leave the RoSaT to the end of the series.
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